SYW301 – My Way with Emiley Steinbruegge

Jennifer Wilson: Welcome to Scrapbook Your Way, the show that explores the breadth of ways to be a memory keeper. Today. I'm your host, Jennifer Wilson, owner Simple Scrapper and author of the New Rules of Scrapbooking. This is episode 301. In this episode, I'm interviewing Emiley Steinbruegge for the My Way Series. My Way is all about celebrating the unique ways memory keepers get things done.

We were honored to have Emiley as the June featured artist at Simple Scrapper.

Hey Emiley, welcome to Scrapbook Your Way.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be here.

Jennifer Wilson: Yes, likewise. I'm looking forward to our [00:01:00] conversation and getting to know you better. We had some fun tech toils and troubles as we were getting ready, but I think we are all set now and ready for a good conversation.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Let's hope so.

Jennifer Wilson: So could you share just a little bit about yourself so that our audience can familiarize themselves with you, or at least put a voice to maybe who they're following on Instagram.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Sure. So my name is Emiley. Um, I live in the St. Louis area with my husband. We have a blended family with five kiddos. Our oldest is just about 20, and our youngest is nine. And then a bunch in the middle. So it's wild over here.

Jennifer Wilson: I bet.

Emiley Steinbruegge: We, I work full-time out of the outside of my home and my husband owns his own business and I do a lot of like the office work for that as well.

So we got a lot going on over here. Um, obviously I love scrapbooking, love crafting. I've been doing it for over 20 years. Yeah, that's [00:02:00] me.

Jennifer Wilson: Wonderful, wonderful. You are not far from me. I'm in, uh, the Champaign, Illinois area and I love to visit St. Louis. The, uh, Botanic Garden is one of my favorite places there.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Oh yeah. That's beautiful.

Jennifer Wilson: So, Emiley do you have a favorite recent layout or project and what really makes it stand out to you?

Emiley Steinbruegge: So my oldest daughter is a senior this year, and I've been working on trying to make a book of all of her, uh, senior pictures, like all the professional pictures we had taken, everything in her cap and gown. She's a dancer as well. So like all those professional pictures, um. And it's just been really sweet to look through all of those and get them all captured in one place.

And I'm hoping if I'm able to part with it, maybe I'll make a, a second copy. Um, but just to be able to give that to her so that she can take it with her as well. And, you know, always have that to look back on.

Jennifer Wilson: Yes. Yes. That sounds [00:03:00] terrific. I am, yeah. My daughter is only 13, but she's going into high school, so I'm already thinking about, okay, four years from now, what do I wanna be working on in terms of my scrapbooks?

Emiley Steinbruegge: Right. Is this gonna be her first year of high school?

Jennifer Wilson: It is, yeah.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Oh, that's exciting times

Jennifer Wilson: It is. She's at volleyball practice right now and that seems to be, will be our life for the foreseeable future.

Emiley Steinbruegge: One of my, um, my middle son plays volleyball as well. And yes, it can definitely take up some time.

Jennifer Wilson: Oh, very cool. So is there something in our hobby or in your everyday life that you're excited to do, use or try?

Emiley Steinbruegge: Um, well, I was thinking of one thing. It's not scrapbook related, but my husband and I are getting ready to go on an adult's only vacation with, um, a group of friends. And we very rarely, you know, with having five kids, we very rarely do anything without them at all, and have only traveled without them. I think, maybe once or twice. So I'm [00:04:00] super excited to go with some adults and just have a week of no responsibility, no, no momming for a whole week. It's just gonna be fantastic.

Jennifer Wilson: That sounds amazing. And I only have the one kid, so Uh, yeah. Are you able to share where you're going?

Emiley Steinbruegge: Yeah, we're going to Punta Kana, which I've never been there before, but it looks gorgeous.

Jennifer Wilson: Yes. Yes. I hope you have a wonderful time and are able to like, totally disconnect and, and feel relaxed.

Emiley Steinbruegge: I hope so too. And of course I'm already planning all the pictures I wanna take and you know, all the scrapbooks I wanna create when we're back, so.

Jennifer Wilson: No doubt and like I can even think of several collections that would have maybe the right kind of colors and yeah, it's, it'd be fun.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Yes, exactly.

Jennifer Wilson: So this is one of our My Way episodes where we get to peek behind the scenes with our featured artists. So uh, starting with kind of a more abstract [00:05:00] question, what would you say to a non scrapbooker about why you love this hobby?

Emiley Steinbruegge: Well, there are so many things I love about it, but I will say my main reason that I love it so much is watching in particular my kids, but also, other family or friends that I've shared scrapbooks with. Watching them look through them and seeing their reactions to them. And, just like hearing them laugh about the pictures or the stories that come up when they're looking through the pictures. It's just so sweet. And my memory is horrendous, Jennifer. It's like terrible. So it is so great for me to look through too and then be reminded of like sweet, funny things that have happened in our family. And you know, just to watch other people enjoy that. It's just really sweet.

Jennifer Wilson: Well I remember a time where I really thought I was gonna remember more things, and now I fully understand that I don't remember anything and I'm glad I did what I did.

Emiley Steinbruegge: [00:06:00] Yes.

Jennifer Wilson: Try to leave myself more breadcrumbs now because I need them.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Yes. Me too. I, yes. I used to always think, oh, I'll remember that. No, no, I will not. Mm-hmm.

Jennifer Wilson: Yes, yes. Too many, too many balls to juggle to keep those things in our brains.

Emiley Steinbruegge: That's exactly right.

Jennifer Wilson: So you mentioned that you've been scrapbooking for a long time. When did you start and what really precipitated that beginning for you?

Emiley Steinbruegge: So I remember very clearly it was either 2002 or 2003. It was the 4th of July, and we were at my aunt's house. My whole extended family had gotten together to celebrate. And my cousin had just started Creative Memories. I don't know if you remember Creative Memories, but um, it was very big back in the day. And she whipped out all of her, you know, things that she was working on.

And I just immediately was very interested. And so she set me up. I ordered a little mini album and the paper cutter and all the simple things, and just immediately [00:07:00] got started on an album on my dogs. And I have been hooked ever since.

Jennifer Wilson: Do you still have that album about your dogs?

Emiley Steinbruegge: Yes, ma'am, I do. And it is hilarious to look at it. Just.

Jennifer Wilson: Awe.

Emiley Steinbruegge: You know.

Jennifer Wilson: What a treasure though.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Yes. It's, it's really sweet.

Jennifer Wilson: I think one thing that's always stood out is that so many of us, we've, we've loved the crafty stuff, but we would go to the store and we're like, oh, like. You want it all, but you don't feel like you have the purpose behind it to justify the things that you wanna buy. And

Emiley Steinbruegge: Yes.

Jennifer Wilson: Scrapbooking gave us all a purpose.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Yes, 100%. I was always the kid who loved all like the stationary supplies, loved back to school. But yeah, like you said, I didn't really have a reason to justify buying all that stuff as a an adult. So.

Jennifer Wilson: No doubt.

Emiley Steinbruegge: This is it.

Jennifer Wilson: So tell us about how you typically create. What sizes, formats, and why do you think, uh, that approach works well for you?

Emiley Steinbruegge: Well, I typically am a 12 by 12 [00:08:00] girl. I take a ton of pictures and I like to include a ton of pictures in my memory keeping. Um, so the smaller formats don't really work out for me because, you know, I would have like 4,000 scrapbooks or something. And I've done both traditional and digital in the past. Right now I'm kind of in my traditional phase again. I just love touching all the supplies and playing with all the paper and all the things. But when I do special projects, you know, like the vacations or my daughter's graduation book or whatever, usually I do those digitally. I'm not sure why I lean towards that for special projects, but I just like them that way.

Jennifer Wilson: Well, maybe those projects often have even more photos. Um, so you need more of the, the compact space to be able to fit all the photos that you want to include.

Emiley Steinbruegge: I think you're probably exactly right. Yes. And you do a lot of digital too, right?

Jennifer Wilson: I do, and I [00:09:00] have a similar split in terms of if it's something where there's going to be a lot of photos, it's a longer story, I am gonna want to probably do a digital book for it. 'Cause I've not had as much success doing bigger albums that have lots of stories that are all on one topic. The ones that I've started are not finished.

So.

Emiley Steinbruegge: There's plenty of that.

Jennifer Wilson: I'm great at doing individual layouts and you know, one at a time. So it's about making the project more manageable and there's lots of like levers that we can pull. And one of those is the digital lever in terms of digital layouts or photo books or you know, all the things in between.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Yeah. I love the way you look at that. Yes. That's awesome.

Jennifer Wilson: So what are you really focused on this year in terms of projects, or activities, time periods, are you doing mostly news stories, older stories? Um, of course you mentioned your, your daughter's a senior book.

Emiley Steinbruegge: So focusing on is just [00:10:00] a very hard phrase for me in general. I am just kind of all over the place. I kind of do whatever I feel like I wanna do in that moment. So some of the pictures I'm doing are from when I was a kid. So like old heritage photos or then I'm also working on my daughter's current pictures. So I don't know, I, I probably need a focus. I could probably get a whole lot more done, Jennifer, if I made a focus. But I kind of just mood scrap. I feel like just whatever kind of mood I'm in, that's what I choose to work on.

Jennifer Wilson: I think as long as you are moving forward, even if you're moving, you know, one thing forward here and another thing forward there, as long as you continue to find momentum. Um. Not having focus isn't necessarily a bad thing if it's, you know, you're finding delight in that

Emiley Steinbruegge: Right. That's what I try to tell myself too.

Jennifer Wilson: Yeah. So if you had to describe your [00:11:00] style to someone who, you know, couldn't, couldn't look you up online and see your pages, um, what, what words would you use?

Emiley Steinbruegge: I would say I'm definitely picture heavy. I would say I'm more of like a uncomplicated, kind of classic cleaner style of layout. Um, and I like bright, bright colors in my layouts, is how I would describe me.

Jennifer Wilson: Do you feel like your style has evolved over time, or do you feel like you found your style at a certain point and you've kind of stuck with it?

Emiley Steinbruegge: Hmm. Well, I mean, looking or thinking back about my little Creative Memories album with my puppy dogs.

Jennifer Wilson: Yeah.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Definitely say that yes, it has evolved. And, you know, just looking at people online and getting inspiration from everybody that's out there that has all these amazing ideas. It's, it's very easy to, um, kind of [00:12:00] fall into that and, you know, start changing the way that you're scrapbooking too.

Jennifer Wilson: Oh, certainly. Yeah, I've, there's been times where I'll like start keeping a list of these techniques that I wanna try and try to like, match them up with an actual project. And it's a lot. And so in the end, I ended up not using the techniques or in general, not using my stamps is, is one of them. And just doing what I would normally do. So.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Yeah, same. But we always have those ideas in the background, right?

Jennifer Wilson: Yeah. Yeah. And sometimes we do sit down and we foc we start with that technique and we, we follow through, but.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Yeah.

Jennifer Wilson: It's a challenge to incorporate them with intention.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Yes.

Jennifer Wilson: Are there things that you feel like you use the most often in your scrapbooking, whether it's particular types of products, line of products, tools, specific techniques?

Emiley Steinbruegge: Paper is my absolute favorite supply. I always wanna use all the paper. Paper's not that exciting, just if you stick it on a page. So, I try to find different fun ways to [00:13:00] use it. I love cut files 'cause you can use tons of different scraps of paper or, all the different paper just to back your cut file. I love to fussy cut paper out to stretch it a little bit further and use those like as embellishments on my page. Also I love Allison Davis. I'm not sure if you're familiar with her, but she has tons of sketches that are very like paper heavy, I would say. And so I love to look at her sketches and copy those as well.

Jennifer Wilson: Yes, she's definitely amazing at doing kind of innovative designs with different cuts that you might not have thought of on your own.

Emiley Steinbruegge: She is, yes, spectacular.

Jennifer Wilson: So are there any trends that you're loving right now, or even the opposite trends that you're not gonna do?

Emiley Steinbruegge: Um, I'm probably, if you ask my teenagers the least trendy person out there. So I'm not sure, uh, if this is even really what you would call a trend, but. I love how social [00:14:00] media is really blowing up, particularly Instagram, with just tons of people sharing their creativity. Like I feel like it used to just be like the Shimelles or you know, the Amy Tangerines or just very, very famous people that were sharing projects online, and now it's everybody.

It's me, it's my best friend. It's.

Jennifer Wilson: Yeah.

Emiley Steinbruegge: I just love that people are loving, being creative and loving, sharing it with people and like creating this huge community of scrapbookers and crafters online. I just think that's really fun.

Jennifer Wilson: So I'm, how do I respond to this? I have like a slight counterpoint because I totally agree, but I also feel like I need multiple Instagram accounts because they give you what you look at. So if I go and look at something else, all of a sudden my feed is the something else, and it's not scrapbooking.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Yes, yes.

Jennifer Wilson: Feel like I have to be in these little silos. In order. Like I have my one that's like about, you [00:15:00] know, recipes and fitness, and I have my one that's about home, and then I have simple scrapper, which is about scrapbooking and creativity and crafting and all that. Because otherwise if I click on one random thing, all of a sudden it's all those things.

Emiley Steinbruegge: You're exactly right because I have noticed that my, uh, one scrappy mom, my Instagram for scrapbooking. Yeah. A lot of the stuff I'm seeing lately is cat videos and.

Jennifer Wilson: Yes.

Emiley Steinbruegge: How to pose certain pictures, because I've been looking for how to do that for our vacation. So you're right, they do look at what you're looking at, I guess.

Jennifer Wilson: Well, and I've, I've had to like go in and like, I, I, I feel like I can reset it by specifically like searching for something and then clicking on things or just scrolling and then only clicking on the things that I want to see more of to try to like retrain it. But it gets off track so quickly. As soon as somebody sends you like a random meme, then when you open it, it starts sending you those. So.

Emiley Steinbruegge: You're right.

Jennifer Wilson: The technology is controlling us, but that's okay.

Emiley Steinbruegge: It is. That's a podcast for [00:16:00] another day.

Jennifer Wilson: It's, it is, yeah. Um, I mean, I use AI as a support system, certainly in the business for some of our writing projects, and it'd be interesting to see how we, like folks might use that for scrapbooking. I've, I've heard some members recently talk about editing their journaling, like they just start writing and then they have Chat GPT kind of polish it up so it sounds better.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Wow, that's brilliant.

Jennifer Wilson: Particularly if they don't feel like they're a good writer or they don't write well. Um, even just for grammar and spelling, I think it could be be helpful. So.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Oh yeah, that's really smart. I never think about using Chat GPT or anything like that. And my kids are always coming to me, showing me just all of this mind blowing stuff that they're doing with it.

Jennifer Wilson: Yeah.

Emiley Steinbruegge: It's crazy.

Jennifer Wilson: It is. It is. Anyway, yeah, as you said, that could be a whole episode on its own.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Yes, ma'am.

Jennifer Wilson: So the opposite of what you're loving. Is there something that you've decided over the [00:17:00] years, whether it's a supply, a technique, a size, or a format that you've decided is not for you? You did already mention the smaller sizes. Is that what stands out the most?

Emiley Steinbruegge: Yes. I was gonna say pretty much anything small just isn't for me. I've tried like traveler's notebooks 'cause they're so cute. I've tried little mini albums. I just can't ever make it work for me because I wanna put way too much stuff in there.

Jennifer Wilson: Yes. Well, and it's, you can kind of release that desire and say, I love it, but not for me. Like, that's kind of the best, happy medium that you can get is appreciating others, creating something and see if you can, uh, take an idea and apply it to your format, your size. Um, but to know yourself well enough to say, I, I shouldn't buy that.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Yeah, I shouldn't, doesn't mean I don't, but, yes.

Jennifer Wilson: Yeah. As someone who has a drawer full of traveler's notebooks over there that aren't being used. I get it.

Emiley Steinbruegge: [00:18:00] Exactly.

Jennifer Wilson: So with a busy family, where and when are you typically scrapbooking?

Emiley Steinbruegge: So when I first started scrapbooking, I would just go to like crops or weekends or whatever. But um, I quickly learned that I wanted to be able to do it at home too. So I made a scrapbook room in my house, and then as I've moved through the years, I've just kept making sure that I had one. Right now, it is not ideal.

I will say it is our dining room. It's like my craft, uh, office space. So immediately when you walk in my front door, that's what you see. And I mean, it's filled with lots of cute stuff, but I'm not always the tidiest scrapper. So it's not always, you know, very well put together. So hopefully my husband's trying to finish our basement. I'm hoping he can move all my messiness downstairs, so we'll see.

Jennifer Wilson: Well, good. What about when, like, how has that changed over time in terms of, [00:19:00] imagine there was a certain point when you were scrapbooking when the kids were asleep or napping and now that they're off busy doing their things.

Emiley Steinbruegge: So usually every Friday night we have like our, everybody do their own thing night. So every Friday night is usually my scrapbooking time. And then really just any time I can squeeze it in. I used to feel like I had to be able to dedicate enough time to complete a whole page or something. And if I couldn't do that, then I just wouldn't even bother with it. But now I'll just go in there really quick and even if I just mat a couple photos or whatever. Just to keep like a project moving forward. I'll just sneak a couple minutes here or there whenever I can.

Jennifer Wilson: Yeah. I love that. I love that. So kind of shifting gears to another topic here, are there any organization strategies that have worked well for you?

Emiley Steinbruegge: I laughed so hard when I saw this question. Because No ma'am. I am open to all of the organization ideas. I especially, like with my digital, all the [00:20:00] photos. I am just struggling with figuring out how to organize all of those best. And I keep trying. I try really hard, but I haven't found my perfect niche yet for my supplies.

Jennifer Wilson: What have you. Well, let's, let's continue on photos. What have you tried?

Emiley Steinbruegge: So I've tried putting them all in folders by, um, you know, like year and month and dividing them up that way. I've tried dividing them up by person. I've tried dividing them up by events. I've, I don't know. I just, I can't find something between, you know, like I have a nice, uh, camera and then I have my phone and then my husband takes pictures and my kids send me things. So it's just trying to keep it all straight, to be quite honest.

Jennifer Wilson: Have you ever tried any kind of software? Uh, including I think, is it Windows Live Photo Manager still? Um, because like the general concept is that if you can store your photos one way, you can look at them in [00:21:00] one of the other ways. If you're using layer of software on top of it.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Okay, so what is it called?

Jennifer Wilson: I, I know you have a pc, so whatever. The one that comes with Windows is. Um, I, it used to be called Windows Live Photo Manager or something.

Emiley Steinbruegge: I'm gonna look it up as soon as we're done here because.

Jennifer Wilson: I am gonna, I'll Google it right now. Windows Live Photo Gallery is discontinued,

Emiley Steinbruegge: Oh.

Jennifer Wilson: Renamed Windows Photo Gallery.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Windows Photo Gallery. I'm gonna have to check it out.

Jennifer Wilson: I would just search like Windows photo and see what, what pops up on your computer? Maybe it's called Microsoft Photos now.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Okay.

Jennifer Wilson: Probably.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Now you have a Mac though, right?

Jennifer Wilson: I do. Yeah.

Emiley Steinbruegge: So you don't use that obviously.

Jennifer Wilson: I use Lightroom, and Lightroom is available on both PC and, and Mac. Um, and I love that I can, it slurps up photos from my phone and then they automatically get transferred to my computer.[00:22:00]

Emiley Steinbruegge: And so Lightroom also organizes?

Jennifer Wilson: I move them into folders by month.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Okay.

Jennifer Wilson: But then I can use facial recognition or tags or even just drag and drop albums that aren't moving them, but they are creating groupings of them, that I might wanna use for a particular layout or a project. Or just if it's a tag, I can just see, say all the photos that are of my daughter and my husband together.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Wow. Yeah, I need to definitely look into something 'cause that sounds amazing.

Jennifer Wilson: It does sound like in my quick Googling here that it is called Microsoft Photos now in terms of what is, what they call it on, on a pc.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Okay, cool. Well, I'll let you know how it goes.

Jennifer Wilson: Yeah. Yeah, always happy to help. Um. Yeah. And you know, as part of being a featured artist, you do get a, a free three [00:23:00] month membership. And so there's a class called Photo Crush 2.0 in there that I think would be just perfect for you. 'Cause it talks you through like the thought process of how to get started with the system.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Sign me up immediately. I'll be in there. That sounds wonderful.

Jennifer Wilson: Yeah. Yeah. Happy to, to see you get started with that.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Yes.

Jennifer Wilson: Um, anyway, I guess going back to organization, uh, you were gonna talk about supplies.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Oh yeah, I was just say with supplies, I kind of organized by, um, season almost. So I keep like, you know, all my fall stuff together, all my winter stuff together. I mean, kind of just a basic organization system.

Jennifer Wilson: What of tools and other things? Do you prefer open or closed storage? Like do you wanna see everything or it doesn't exist? Or do you like things put away?

Emiley Steinbruegge: Ideally, I love everything put away in a nice, tidy little home, but I don't usually do that. [00:24:00] I usually tend to leave all my stuff out so I can see it all and remind myself that I have it.

Jennifer Wilson: Yeah.

Emiley Steinbruegge: When I put all of my like punches away or stamps away or whatever it is, I tend to forget that they even exist.

Jennifer Wilson: Now you create for some design teams, right?

Emiley Steinbruegge: Yes, ma'am.

Jennifer Wilson: So how do you kind of organize those projects in terms of like making sure you meet your deadlines and keeping products together and all that?

Emiley Steinbruegge: I keep all of those in a special box on my desk, um, grouped together by the design team. And then I have a paper planner and I just write little notes of when everything's due and, and keep track of it that way.

Jennifer Wilson: Awesome. Awesome.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Yeah.

Jennifer Wilson: Now our last two questions are a little bit, you know, big picture here. Where would you like your scrapbooking to be in 10 years?

Emiley Steinbruegge: I would love for all of these ideas that I have floating around in my head to actually have like come to fruition. I [00:25:00] have so many great projects planned. I just don't seem to have the time yet to, to do, but maybe in 10 years, my youngest will be 19. So I'm sure I'll just be sitting around with nothing to do, right?

So I'll have nothing but time to scrapbook and I can get everything finished.

Jennifer Wilson: I mean, yeah, not to make assumptions, but in terms of years from now, you also could have grandchildren. So, um.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Yes. Yes. So, yeah, see there's always gonna be more and more added, isn't there? But, but that's okay.

Jennifer Wilson: Yeah, as as someone of the blended family myself, I've like tried to do the mental math of all of this, and I just stopped. So my stepsons are now, oh gosh, they're 31 and 36. No. 30 and 34, sorry. Yeah. 30 and 34. But still those, that's old. I mean.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Yeah. So now [00:26:00] then, do you have grandchildren then?

Jennifer Wilson: No, I do not. But you know, it certainly could.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Right?

Jennifer Wilson: Haven't found the right, the right persons yet. So.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Yeah. Wow, that's exciting.

Jennifer Wilson: Um, so what has being a scrapbooker taught you?

Emiley Steinbruegge: I think, um, probably the biggest blessing that has given me, is just realizing that it's okay for me to do something just because it makes me happy. In life, I, you know, I tend to be very production oriented. And I look at my day, like how many things that I get checked off my list. How much forward progress that I make on a goal.

But with scrapbooking, I mean, yes, I have goals and there are albums that I wanna create and things that I wanna do, and I do wanna move forward with them. But also, if I just wanna sit down and play with a pretty piece of paper or fiddle around with pretty embellishments just because I want to, that's okay too. I don't have to be working towards a specific goal all the time.

Jennifer Wilson: I love that, [00:27:00] particularly when there's so many other parts of our life that are so like goal oriented. Sometimes we do need that permission to

Emiley Steinbruegge: play.

Yes we do. And scrapbooking, I think definitely gives us that.

Jennifer Wilson: Oh yeah, for sure. So Emiley, can you share where our listeners can find you online, anything you might be planning, um, for later this year?

Emiley Steinbruegge: Sure. I am on Instagram as One_Scrappy_Mama and Facebook one Scrappy Mama. Um, and like you mentioned, I'm on a few design teams, so, um, I have projects coming out for them every month. So yeah, I'll just be over here creating.

Jennifer Wilson: Yeah, and I can't wait to see what you create, um, for your Punta Cana trip. Be fun.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Me too. Me too.

Jennifer Wilson: Emiley, this has just been delightful. Thank you for spending time with me.

Emiley Steinbruegge: Thank you so much for having me. It was really such a joy.

Jennifer Wilson: And to all of our listeners, please remember that you have permission to Scrapbook Your Way. [00:28:00]